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Grumpy · Nov 04, 2009, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Theocrat

but from the point of view of a Baldur's Gate player, the console version is very close to being filth.

See, I enjoyed the shit out of all of the Infinity Engine games, and due to computer restrictions(the fact that it is a piece of shit) I got the console version. Plays more like KotOR than anything, although I would like the pausing. I wouldn't say the console version is BAD, it's not really easier, either. You're limited by the whole interface and shit. Even on normal the final fight in the Fade kicked my ass multiple times. Still, it's better than most games I've played on the console.

It's not Baldur's Gate II or Planescape Torment, but it's damn fun. Probably the best RPG I've played in a long while. Probably since KoTOR.

DarkNecrid · Nov 04, 2009, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Game is good, it's a Bioware RPG. You either have good taste and like them, or you prefer drivel like Oblivion. Game is still not the best RPG of ALL TIME!!!, for me it's Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Anachronox, and then Baldur's Gate 1 atm in order of best to super good.

Still tho....game is good, well worth the money. Can't really think of any bad things about it really, it just doesn't carry the exact same intellectual, spiritual, philosophical, and emotional feel that Planescape: Torment brought. Still tho, best RPG to come out since ME/KotOR.

Eskimoz · Nov 05, 2009, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Theocrat

Some graphics comparisons here. For gameplay I can't really show you pictures, but the console versions are significantly easier and dumbed down (less enemies, no friendly fire in Normal, and the like), partially due to the locking of your view to third person.

Plus, there will be no user created content for the consoles. That alone is a HUGE reason to go PC or go home. NWN lasted for as long as it did because of the plethora of well planned user created scenarios; PC DA:O will get similar content, but the console gamers will find little to do in the game once they play through it with each class and race.

...well I've never really cared for graphics, shit I'm still entertained by Pong.

The prospect of new content is tempting...however I've never really OWNED a computer game except for those old "command and conquer" games. Damn those games were fun.

RedNova88 · Nov 06, 2009, 03:55 AM // 03:55

I would get it for PC and I'm perfectly capable of playing the character creation demo with everything cranked and still able to maintain 60 FPS, but my lack of ram and worries of a dying power supply have pushed me towards getting the 360 version. I looked at comparisons and the 360 version looks downright boring in comparison to the PC. That is to say that the graphics look boring, not the game.

Get it for PC and tolerate computer blacking out every hour and lag terribly in busy sequences.
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Get it for 360 and tolerate muddy washed out colors and whatever interface issues and bugs it has. Oh and no mods of any sort.

Also if someone doesn't mind answering. Is it REALLY as long as people have been hyping it up to be?

Grumpy · Nov 06, 2009, 04:19 AM // 04:19

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Originally Posted by RedNova88

I would get it for PC and I'm perfectly capable of playing the character creation demo with everything cranked and still able to maintain 60 FPS, but my lack of ram and worries of a dying power supply have pushed me towards getting the 360 version. I looked at comparisons and the 360 version looks downright boring in comparison to the PC. That is to say that the graphics look boring, not the game.

Get it for PC and tolerate computer blacking out every hour and lag terribly in busy sequences.
OR
Get it for 360 and tolerate muddy washed out colors and whatever interface issues and bugs it has. Oh and no mods of any sort.

Also if someone doesn't mind answering. Is it REALLY as long as people have been hyping it up to be?

Playing it on the Xbox here, it's not THAT bad. I'd prefer PC version, but it's still damn fun with the Xbox. Installing it to the hard drive made it run smooth as shit and got rid of most of the graphical errors. Length-wise, I am 28:12:04 as play time and 38% complete with 66% of the world explored. So somewhere around 80-90 hours to do everything is reasonable to expect.

DarkNecrid · Nov 06, 2009, 04:59 AM // 04:59

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Originally Posted by RedNova88

I would get it for PC and I'm perfectly capable of playing the character creation demo with everything cranked and still able to maintain 60 FPS, but my lack of ram and worries of a dying power supply have pushed me towards getting the 360 version. I looked at comparisons and the 360 version looks downright boring in comparison to the PC. That is to say that the graphics look boring, not the game.

Get it for PC and tolerate computer blacking out every hour and lag terribly in busy sequences.
OR
Get it for 360 and tolerate muddy washed out colors and whatever interface issues and bugs it has. Oh and no mods of any sort.

Also if someone doesn't mind answering. Is it REALLY as long as people have been hyping it up to be?

It's about 40 hours if you rush through everything and ignore most of the story by talking to a lot of people, doing side quests, backtracking through areas again, etc. That said, if you are doing this, you're playing a Bioware RPG for the wrong reasons, about 90-100 hours if you play it proper.

RedNova88 · Nov 06, 2009, 05:19 AM // 05:19

Thanks for the reply guys! That's exactly what I was wondering.

Eskimoz · Nov 08, 2009, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

It's about 40 hours if you rush through everything and ignore most of the story by talking to a lot of people, doing side quests, backtracking through areas again, etc. That said, if you are doing this, you're playing a Bioware RPG for the wrong reasons, about 90-100 hours if you play it proper.

I look forward to finding a skeleton in game with a note next to it reading: "I tried to play the whole game in one sitting, goodbye cruel world!"

Faer · Nov 09, 2009, 04:47 PM // 16:47

NONE OF YOU ARE AS MANLY AS MY DWARF

P.S. My main beef with console versions of this game is as follows:

Console, Normal Difficulty: Cast Blizzard, stand in Blizzard, nothing beyond a couple seconds of potentially being frozen happens.
PC, Normal Difficulty: Cast Blizzard, stand in Blizzard, GET FROZEN AND TAKE DAMAGE BECAUSE YOU'RE AN IDIOT THAT STANDS IN BLIZZARD.

Without kicking difficulty up to Hard on consoles, the game is a joke and your brain can be shut off as long as your fingers can mash the AoE buttons. Positioning? herpderpwhatisthat?

Grumpy · Nov 09, 2009, 06:09 PM // 18:09

It's a pain in the ass to do much movement on the xbox because you have to set everyone to not move and then individually swap to everyone while you move them where you want. No top down Infinity Engine view. Plays more like an action game on the console.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Nov 10, 2009, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Ok, I take it back this games great.

Eskimoz · Nov 15, 2009, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Well I got the game for the console, with the difficulty cranked up all the way it's definitely entertaining. However this game raised two questions for me.

Whatever happened to witty banter in "Vidya" games?

and

Isn't "Sandal" the most horrifying little thing you've ever seen?

bhavv · Nov 16, 2009, 09:41 AM // 09:41

Meh. Camp Elven Mages >>>>> Any Dwarf in the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR5y3VheJSg

We pwn all, we do indeed

Faer · Nov 16, 2009, 02:37 PM // 14:37

http://www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15

GLORIOUS PC GAMING MASTER RACE WINS AGAIN.

*Darcy* · Nov 16, 2009, 02:59 PM // 14:59

I'm enjoying it. First decent RPG in years. Although the AI leaves something to be desired as usual. And, with all the delays, you would think that they would have upgraded the artwork in the first areas to match that of the later areas.

P.S. Nothing will ever be better than Planescape: Torment

Zahr Dalsk · Nov 16, 2009, 03:30 PM // 15:30

I downloaded it, but haven't even installed yet. Since I also just finished downloading Modern Warfare 2, which is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Theocrat

your brain can be shut off as long as your fingers can mash the AoE buttons

This is so console players can play the game.

Faer · Nov 16, 2009, 06:11 PM // 18:11

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

This is so console players can play the game.

That was my point.

bhavv · Nov 16, 2009, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Theocrat

Without kicking difficulty up to Hard on consoles, the game is a joke and your brain can be shut off as long as your fingers can mash the AoE buttons. Positioning? herpderpwhatisthat?

I already knew that this game is suckage for consoles, but that is just lawl.

Console gamers play Dragon Age Origins and pretend to be wannabe leet gamers.

Even funnier is laughing at all the newbs that find the game too hard on Easy difficulty.

'I have a mage and I took all the boom boom spells, and I keep on dying and its too hard!'

Glyphs, Forcefield, and Crushing Prison say 'Hi! Use us please, we make this game easier then frolicking through a park full of daisies'.

But even funnier is the people who think that playing without pausing makes them better at the game .... Quite the opposite actually. Button mashing while your whole party dies again and again is not better then skilled tactical play.

Flawlessly killing the Tower Ogre while only using 1 lesser mana potion, which I didnt even need to use really? That requires a tiny amount of skill and much tactical thinking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jm7Ivl3tyY

zwei2stein · Nov 16, 2009, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Glyphs, Forcefield, and Crushing Prison say 'Hi! Use us please, we make this game easier then frolicking through a park full of daisies'.

Cone of Cold + Stonefist = Oneshoting enemies. Literally

Winters Grasp + Death Hex = Oneshoting enemies. Literally.

Stinging Swarm + Virulent Walking Bomb = KABOOOOM! (Your party might not survive it, but enemies will definitelly not - ).

Paralyze + Coup De Grace = good-bye, foe.

Game is literally filled with crowd control and deadly comboes, it is amazing that people can fail to use it even accidentally. You can shut down huge crowds sooo easily ...

BTW: Mages are imba.

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I love this game, btw, It is basically playing GW with heroes where you can pause. Only issue is that AOEs do have firendly fire and party is not big enough to make stuff like partywide weapon enchants usefull, but that is meh.

And there is this neat 'program your own ai' thing.

I actually suspect that devs played some GW or at least heard about it.

Eskimoz · Nov 17, 2009, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Console gamers play Dragon Age Origins and pretend to be wannabe leet gamers.

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This is so console players can play the game.

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Blah blah console blah blah suck blah blah lol blah blah

Computer players are probably jerks that like to laugh at poor people and set money on fire in front of them while they gorge themselves on whatever food the homeless person happens to have and then take a crap in their begging can.

of course I could be wrong.